Debates my Dad and I have...

Tripps: Interesting thought..."Jesus was a bleeding heart liberal for his time." Dad: no, actually, he was a conservative, who saw now gray and everything in black and white Dad: the truth is the truth and no exceptions Tripps: Ah, but the truth is based on perception of the facts. :) Dad: nope Dad: that is a liberal view point Tripps: Yup if you perceive something to be what it isn't to you... it's truth until proven otherwise. Dad: but if you are wrong in what you believe, it does not matter, since there is only one truth Tripps: but I'm saying from the perspective of the person because you can't be absolute. why? Tripps: because it's hubris to think you can see as objectively as God. Dad: just because someone thinks something that is false to be true, does not make it so Tripps: but you can't presume to know the absolute truth Tripps: you only know your version of it. Dad: you know the temperature of freezing, correct Tripps: Yes. Dad: there are things which have absolutes, there are no gray areas Tripps: 32F is not the only freezing temperature for water. Tripps: :) Tripps: just like boiling can be at room temperature given the conditions Tripps: once again... what you perceive as absolute isn't. You just don't know all there is to know on it. Dad: You will hear some say, "I would hate to be so narrow minded as to accuse all who differ with me of being wrong", but if that kind of tolerance is right, truth does not matter. You see everyone is narrow in most other realms, rightly so because the truth is narrow. o The Pacific Ocean is on the west coast, and the Atlantic is on the east coast, o The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941 o Water freezes at 32 degrees, 33 degrees is close, but not right These are all truths, and cannot be moved in any direction and be right, You see the truth is narrow, and Spiritual Truth is just as narrow and positive as Truth in geographical, historical, or scientific realms. Tripps: Unless you're omnipotent and omniscient you're not seeing the whole picture therefore you don't know the truth as it is, only as you perceive it. Dad: a sermon I did not too long ago Dad: I would love to continue this, but I have a proposal to finish and I am flying to Portland this afternoon